He Jing-Han, the Successor of Baguaquan

Video report from 2019 with Master HeJingHan, students opinion, thoughts about Baguaquan and its study. ( with Chinese – English subtitles)

八卦拳傳人-何靜寒

HeJingHan BaguaQuan, Baguazhang Teaching Taipei.
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[中華武育學會] 推敲太極拳/八卦盤龍
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Email us: baguaquan.hun@gmail.com
some materials could be added from HeJingHan book:
Bagua Quan Foundation Training
ISBN 978-1848190153

Class Location

No. 50, Lane 65, Xingyi St, Taoyuan District, Taoyuan City, Taiwan 330
Class Schedule for Baqua quan application
Every Saturday 14:30
Class Schedule for Tai chi quan
Every Saturday

Transcript

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八卦拳教我的第一件事情就是凡事要問「為什麼？」

The first thing Baguaquan taught me is to ask “why” of everything.

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我叫何靜寒，我是民國四十四年元月出生的。

My name us He Jing-Han, and I was born in January, 1955.

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我習武是從十六歲習武的。

I started to practice martial arts from sixteen years old.

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那麼開始是接觸太極拳，接觸過形意拳，

At first, I came into contact with Taichiquan and Xingyiquan,

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後來師承是八卦拳。

and afterwards I inherited Baguaquan.

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我的師父是宮保齋先生，師爺是宮保田，

My teacher in Gong Bao-Zhai; grand master is Gong Bao-Tian,

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那麼到我是第五代。

and I am the fifth generation.

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我接觸太極拳是在十六歲，那個時候是在高中。

I came into contact with Taichiquan at the age sixteen, when I was in the high school.

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那麼接觸了以後呢，這種有古味的東西啊，我就很容易喜歡。

After coming into contact, I easily fell in love with this kind of ancient stuffs.

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就這樣子有意無意的，反正就是沒事嘛，那個，那個時候啊，放假就去，就去學。

Therefore, intentionally or accidentally, I went to learn it when having a break. I had free time anyway.

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可是離開以後呢，我都沒有斷，在練習當中都沒有斷。

I didn’t stop practicing after I left, though.

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那在新竹那個地方啊，認識了陳天一陳老師。

I knew teacher Chen Tian-Yi in Hsinchu.

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陳天一老師練的是形意拳。

What teacher Chen Tian-Yi practiced is Xingyiquan.

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那我就跟他學了，學了一點形意拳。

And I learned some Xingyiquan from him.

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也是一樣，我學形意拳就是形意拳最基本的拳，劈、鑽、崩、炮、橫。

I learned the basic techniques of Xingyiquan, which are hack, snap punch, drill fist, cannon, and horizontal punch.

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只練這個。

I only practiced these.

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然後只學了一套形意的連環拳。

And then I only learned one set of quan of Xingyiquan.

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他有一天就跟我講，他說臺北有一位老師，宮老師練八卦的。

One day, he(teacher Chen Tian-Yi) told me that a teacher, Mr. Gong, in Taipei practiced Baguaquan.

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他說：「我去了四五年啊，你去，你去跟這位老師學學看，

“I had been there for four or five years. You may go to learn from the teacher(Mr. Gong),” said Mr. Chen,

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你看能你能不能學到點東西。」

“and see if you can learn something.”

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我就經過這個倪維城教授的引薦，到臺北認識到我的師父，就是宮保齋老師。

I got to know my teacher in Taipei, Gong Bao-Zhai, through professor Ni Wei-Cheng.

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我到國外去推廣八卦拳啊，其實都是，很多事情都是所謂的機緣啊。

My going abroad to promote Baguaquan was actually so-called lucky chances.

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當初的是在臺灣的外國人，他到我的班上面來學習。

At that time, foreigners in Taiwan came to my class to learn.

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最早的是有一位英國的，有一位是斯洛伐克的。

The earliest one was an English, and another one was Slovaks.

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那他們，他們都是練武很多年的，甚至在國外已經是教武術的老師了。

They practiced martial arts for many years, and even were teachers teaching martial arts overseas.

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那因為學習得蠻有心得的，所以回國以後，他們回國以後就邀我去。

Because they felt they learned a lot (from me), they invited me over after they went back to their home countries.

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所以我最早去的美國之外，

So, in spite of the U.S.A., which was the first country I went to,

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我歐洲最早去的是英國，英國，然後是斯洛伐克。

the first place I went to in Europe is the U.K., and then Slovak.

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那去了，他們就會找他們的學生啊，或者一些有興趣的人來嘛。

When I went there, their students or people who were interested would come.

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那這一些人裡面呢，又有其他國家的。

Among these people, there were people from other countries.

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所以我最早在教的時候啊，是一個國家，一個國家跑，一個城市，一個城市跑。

So, when I first started to teach abroad, I went from countries to countries; cities to cities.

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那現在因為父母，父親的年紀大了，後來是父母都需要照顧了啊，就一年只去一次。

Now, because my parents are elder, and they need to be taken care of, I only go (abroad to teach) once a year.

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八卦拳它比較講究的，我個人認為是一種從不平衡中找到那個平衡。

Personally, I think Baguaquan puts more emphasis on reaching the balance amidst the disproportion.

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就是了解到說，喔原來這個動作是身體的哪些地方，

That is, to understand what particular body parts are related to the position,

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你需要去控制你的身體怎麼操作它這樣，所以比較容易清楚。

and one needs to control and manipulate his body so it is clearer.

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八卦拳，它是一種…嗯…動中禪。

Baguaquan is a kind of dynamic Zen(a Japanese school of Mahayana Buddhism).

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我喜歡他的教法，所以如果你自己要進步，那你自己練。

I like his teaching approach, and if you want to improve yourself, you need to practice on your own.

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那如果你自己要練，我可以教你。

And if you want to practice on your own, I can teach you.

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就是他對身體的了解的細微程度，每一個關節啊，每一根筋啊在哪裡，每一根骨頭。

He understands the sophisticated human bodies, where every joint, tendon, and bone are.

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還有甚至內臟該怎麼樣動，他都會很細微的指導這樣子。

He even teaches subtly how to move the organs.

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不管他的武術，還是他的精神，還是他的生活面，就變成全面性的。

It becomes comprehensive no matter it’s his martial art, spirit, or life.

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不，不是只有練習武術而已。

It’s not merely practicing martial arts.

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每一個動作有很大的意思，然後除了動作，也有一種想法。

Every movement has its own important meaning, and also contains a thought.

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他是求真的，他是有幾分證據就說幾分話。

He pursues the truth, and speaks with the evidence.

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比如說哎，可能老祖宗過去有強調過說八卦掌走掌的時候，會練到辮子會飛起來。

For example, the antecessor probably emphasized that when walking the palm of Bagua Palm, the braid should be blown up.

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那老師就有一段時間，他也曾經是留長頭髮。

In that case, the teacher once had long hair for a while.

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想要去實驗看看說，哎，

(He) wanted to do the experiment,

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我需要做到什麼樣的，什麼樣的程度，或什麼樣的一個身體上的素質，可以達到這一個指標。

seeing to what degree or physical attribute one could reach this goal.

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第一個他的教學非常非常地有耐心。

First of all, he is extremely patient when teaching.

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為什麼呢？因為這個東西其實很難。

Why? Because this is actually hard.

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你其實古代的話，古代為什麼這個東西常常教學上出現斷層？

Speaking of ancient time, why were there often chasm of teaching?

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第一個古代的老師，他會用、會打，他不一定有這個耐心來教。

First, teachers in ancient time could apply martial arts, but they were not necessarily patient to teach.

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那第二個是說古代的老師會用、會打，他講不出來。

Second, teachers in ancient time could apply martial arts, but they couldn’t elaborate the thought.

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然後第三個是古代老師，他講不出來，他，他講得出來好了就算了，他也沒有辦法系統化。

Third, teachers in ancient time couldn’t elaborate the thought, and even if they could, they couldn’t systematize.

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所以為什麼會斷源？就是這些東西缺一不可。

So, why would it be disconnected? Because these above are indispensable.

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老師還是再把它回歸到一個，在武術上回歸到一個最根本的一個質，就是一個核心。

In terms of martial arts, the teacher makes it back to the essence, a core.

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那這一個核心其實在學完之後，其實我們在社會各個程度上都可以應用。

After learning the core, we can actually apply it to the society in various extent.

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其實老師教的不是只有單單武術，它其實包含了很多中國的道家哲學思想在裡面。

In fact, what the teacher teaches is not only martial arts, it also contains a lot of Chinese Taoist philosophy.

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還有包含就是以前我們師爺所留下的一句話，就是武術不是只練來打人的。

In addition, a sentence was left by our grand master, that is, martial arts are not just practiced to beat people.

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對，打人其實是一個基本的東西，但是實際上它背後有很多更深層的含意。

Yes, beating people is a basis, but actually there are lots of deeper meanings behind it.

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那我們只是藉由這一個武術這一個運動，

And through martial arts, the sport,

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來去雕塑我們這一個人的外在、內在，包含核心上的思想。

we sculpt the external and internal of a person, including the core thoughts.

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這也是老師這幾十年來一路傳承下來給我們的一個中心思想，對。

This is also the central idea that the teacher has passed down to us over the past few decades. Yeah.

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我拜師以後，我師父講的第一個事情，他說凡事都要問「為什麼？」

After I became the apprentice, the first thing my teacher said was to ask “why” of everything.

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練八卦拳就是養成這個習慣。

Practicing Baguaquan is to develop this habit.

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在訓練的過程當中也是這樣的訓練的。

This is also the case during the training process.

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你一定要知道為什麼。

One must know why.

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為什麼這一拳要這樣子出？為什麼不那樣出？是不是？

Why should this punch come out like this? Why not come out like that? Isn’t it?

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為什麼這個茶壺要做成這個形狀？

Why is this teapot made in this shape?

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為什麼它的嘴要做成這樣彎彎的？

Why is its mouth made to be curved like this?

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我們對接觸到的所有的事情，都不能把它當成是理所當然就是這個樣子的。

We can’t take everything we come into contact for granted.

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學問是在這個東西的背後。

Knowledge is behind this.

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可是你不問為什麼的時候，你就不知道這件東西背後的那個人的智慧跟學問在。

But when you don’t ask why, you won’t know the wisdom and knowledge of the person behind this thing.

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所以我就養成了這個習慣。

Therefore, I got into this habit.

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任何東西，任何人事物，所有我們接觸到的第一個，我會去想為什麼。

I would wonder why about everything and everyone we get to know.

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當然你不一定會追求到正確的答案。

Of course, you may not necessarily pursue the correct answer.

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可是當你的思維進入到為什麼的時候，你不會停留在那個，那個表面的好惡。

But when you are thinking about why, you won’t stay at the superficial likes and dislikes.

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不會被那個表面的現象牽引。

Don’t be drawn by the superficial phenomenon.

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所以我，我也是。

So, so am I.

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我覺得這個是很好的，很好的一個，一個學習。

I think it’s a good way to learn.

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就是任何事情去問「為什麼？」

That is, to ask “why” of everything.

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